很久以前 我18岁时 When I was 18, a long time ago now,
我觉得在脑海中营造各种世界 就会获得自由 I had the idea that you found freedom by building worlds inside your head.
只有后退 才能前行 That you had to go backwards in order to go forwards.
小孩对一切事物都有答案 That little kids had the answers to everything.
18岁时 我想法很多 When I was 18, I had so many ideas,
几乎无法入眠 I hardly slept at all.
1992年夏天 In the summer of 1992,
朋友们和我在新加坡的街上 拍摄了一部公路电影 my friends and I shot a road movie on the streets of Singapore...
这部电影原本会成为都市传奇 that was to become?a kind of urban legend.
片名叫《逃避者》 That movie was called Shirkers,
这个词的字面 意思是“逃跑” a word which means "running away,
逃避责任 avoiding responsibility,
逃离 escape."
我是编剧兼女主角 I wrote the script and played the heroine,
扮演一个16岁的杀手 叫S a 16-year-old killer named S.
在新加坡 从来没人拍这种电影 Nobody was making movies like that in Singapore.
所以 我们堪称先行者 So, we were pioneers.
这部电影仿佛是新加坡的时间舱 The film was a time capsule?of a Singapore
既现实又虚幻 that was both real and imaginary.
当时 我梦寐以求要拍电影 Back then, the thing I wanted more than anything was to make a movie.
但我从未想到会是这种结局 But I never imagined it would end this way.
25年后 我踏上一段奇异的后搠之旅 Twenty-five years later, I find myself on a strange backward journey,
重演过去 寻找线索 replaying the past for clues.
好吧 我听了你在房间里录制的带子 Okay, I listened to your tape that you did in your room.
我超爱的 能成为你的挚友 我感觉很好 I loved it. I like being your best friend.
你是我的挚友 You're my best friend.
知道你在身边 我感觉很好 I like knowing that you're around.
知道我们心有灵犀 I like knowing that we're connected,
患难与共 我感觉很好 that we're partners in crime.
再给我制作一盘带子 拜托了 Make me another tape, please.
我想你 I miss you.
我懂得了不再思考那段时间…… I learned to stop thinking about that time...
假装什么也没发生过…… to pretend it never happened...
当然 这不可能 which was, of course, impossible.
《逃避者》变成了一段秘密历史 Shirkers became a secret history,
只有我们一小撮人知道 shared by a small group of us.
让我们魂牵梦萦 And it would haunt us
紧密相连 and bond us
又苦苦折磨我们 and tear us apart.
-准备好就开始 -已经好了 - Whenever you're ready. - Now.
黄锦佳 童年好友
成为朋友之前 我和锦佳水火不容 Jasmine and I were enemies before we were friends.
你当我是敌人 但我不知道我是否也这样想 You thought I was an enemy, but I don't know if I thought you were an enemy.
对 Uh, yeah.
14岁以前 我们一直敌视彼此 We stayed enemies until we were 14.
我们是20世纪80年代长大的... When we were growing up?in the 1980s...
传播礼貌 请先微笑
政府和家人总是跟你过不去 the state and the family were constantly in your face.
一个民族 一个国家 一个新加坡
沉默是金 微笑
当时 新加坡管制严格 政府甚至禁止嚼口香糖 Singapore was so uptight, its government even banned chewing gum.
如果美国人相信 自己很优越 If Americans believe?they are exceptional,
我告诉你 let me tell you,
新加坡人则知道我们很优越 Singaporeans know we are exceptional.
1965年 新加坡只是个炎热小岛 A sweaty little island in 1965,
到2000年 新加坡已成为全球最富有的国家之一 Singapore became one of the richest countries in the world by the year 2000.
我和锦佳14岁那年 When Jasmine and I were 14,
我们发现了小众电影和非主流音乐 we discovered unusual movies and unpopular music.
我们都是异类 成为闺蜜 And as weirdos, we became best friends.
我俩的成长背景大相径庭 We came from very different backgrounds...
锦佳的爸爸 妈妈
但我们俩却是死党 but we were thick as thieves.
我发誓我们是科恩姐妹
我家境不好 My family was intense.
在我出生前 我父母的婚姻就破裂了 My parents' marriage was collapsing even before I was born,
所以我是祖父母带大的 and so I was raised by my grandparents.
下雨候 我们房子前面的草坪看起来像巧克力牛奶 When it rained, our front lawn looked like chocolate milk.
1981年 我祖父坚持要拍照 In 1981, my grandfather insisted on having these pictures taken...
因为他心爱的房子就要被拆掉了 because his beloved house was about to be torn down.
1985年 这栋房子的旧址上新建了公寓 In 1985, the house was replaced by this condo.
虽然仍会有积水 但再也不像巧克力牛奶了 It still flooded, but it was no longer chocolate milk.
家人期盼我出类拔萃 I was always expected to shine.
这令人精疲力竭 Which was exhausting.
我需要发泄 I needed a way out.
所以 我当然会喜欢锦佳的家人 So, of course, I liked Jasmine's family.
他们热情 随和 They were warm and undemanding
我们在锦佳的房间搭建稀奇古怪的神砻 他们也无所谓 and didn't care?if we built crazy shrines in Jasmine's room.
我们有戏剧之王…… We had the God of Theater...
剧本创作女神 and the Goddess of Scriptwriting.
我们打扮成护士去上学 We showed up at school dressed up as nurses.
我还挑战电影协会权威 And I challenged the authorities at the Film Society.
亲爱的善治：我们会尽力获取你所要求的电影 We will certainly try to acquire the films you've requested.
我迫切想拍电影 I desperately wanted to make movies.
我假想自己是电影制作人 进行虚拟采访 I gave imaginary interviews as imaginary filmmakers.
嗨 我想为你介绍一下我的电影 Hi, I would like to share with you my movie
《魔力火脑》绝对原创 Magic Fire Brain, which, uh, is completely original.
有很多群众场景 There were lots of crowd scenes.
我认真阅读《美国电影》和《影评》杂志 I read American Film and Film Comment religiously.
但不想点办法 我根本看不到这些电影 But it was impossible to see these movies unless I got very creative.
我跟在佛罗里达的堂姐微琪一起 I established a clandestine videotaping syndicate
成立了一个秘密录像带联合会 with my cousin Vicki in Florida...
就是为了我能观看《蓝丝绒》 just so I could watch Blue Velvet.
《蓝丝绒》1986年
周围的人根本不在意的东西 锦佳和我却看得津津有味 Jasmine and I devoured what people around us ignored.
14岁时 我们开始给《大O》写稿 We started writing for BigO,
这是新加坡一家地下摇滚小众杂志 Singapore's underground rock zine, when we were 14.
《大O》是谢福龙创办的 他总是一本正经 BigO was run by Philip Cheah, in all his poker-faced glory,
他给我们制作帕蒂史密斯和地下丝绒的带子 and he would make us tapes of Patti Smith and The Velvet Underground
他针对这些带子对我们进行测试 然后才准我们加入他们的社团 and quiz us on them before he would let us join their club.
新加坡 对音乐和电影有着严格的审查制度 In Singapore, you had very strict censorship across music and film.
谢福龙 《大O》杂志 编辑
许多伟大的经典专辑仍然被禁 A lot of the great classic albums were still banned.
我们看到在英国和美国发生的革命 We saw the revolution that took place in the UK and in the US,
我们想知道这是否会在这里发生 and we wondered whether that could actually happen here.
我们为《大O》创作了详尽的拼图 We created elaborate collages for BigO,
他们都非常讨厌 which they all hated.
对他们来讲 我们可能太年轻无知了 I think we were way too punk for them.
他们只是个糟糕的男生社团而已 They were a lame boy's club anyway.
所以总是我们 So it was always us...
跟这个世界抗衡 against the world.
我们最大的成就之一 就是用国家图书馆的复印机 出版自己的 Our greatest achievement was publishing our own zine, The Exploding Cat...
小众杂志《爆炸猫》 on the photocopier at the National Library.
我们试图借助《爆炸猫》来记载让我们感到愤怒 Exploding Cat was our attempt to catalog everything that angered us,
和开心的一切东西 that made us laugh.
卡在马桶里的女人
我感觉...好奇怪 我的脑袋要...开始...晕了
这只猫变得出名了 The Cat became its own thing.
我们收到各地来信 纽约 伦敦 We received letters from New York, London...
巴黎 耶路撒冷 Paris, Jerusalem,
甚至还有来自三个不同国家的监狱来信 even prisons in three different states.
最重要的是…… Above all...
它也是我们的写照 it was a catalog of us.
我 Me,
我的朋友们 my friends,
我们这个位于世界中心的小岛 our tiny island in the center of the world,
在1989年 绘制我们自己的 charting our own destiny...
命运 in 1989.
下一个故事是 第39章 The next story is chapter 39.
等等 还有一件事 Hang on, just one more thing.
那时候 我沉迷于《麦田里的守望者》 Back in those days, I was obsessed with The Catcher in the Rye...
《麦田里的守望者》是美国作家杰罗姆·大卫·塞林格创作的唯一一部长篇小说
和塞林格关于拯救儿童的想法 and Salinger's idea of saving children.
所以我教导 我的小堂弟堂妹们永远别长大 So I trained my baby cousins to never grow up.
...人们讲话 ...people talk.
-嘿 -干嘛 - Wen... - Yes.
说句话 Say something.
我要涂颜色 I'm going to color.
如果他们必须长大 那就要与众不同 Or if they had to grow up, to grow up different.
我恨我的家人
歇斯底里好过平庸 "Hysterical" was superior to "ordinary."
我恨你 I hate you.
即使沮丧都好过平庸 Even "depressed" was superior to "ordinary."
脏狗都不是好东西 You no good mangy mutt!
你真蠢 You're stupid.
很久以前 1991年初 我们去上电影制作课 A long time ago, in early '91, we took the filmmaking class,
变电站艺术中心
或许是这里的第一个电影制作课程 probably the first filmmaking class available here.
在这间教室和隔壁的教室里 In this classroom and the adjoining classroom as well.
有很多人 你 我 So there was a whole bunch?of us, you, me,
各式各样奇怪的人 a whole strange assortment of persons.
我们的老师叫乔治卡 东那 猜不出他的年龄和背景 Our teacher was Georges Cardona, a man of unplaceable age and origin.
我觉得你们应该拍一部电影 讲述一个 I think we ought to make a film?about the guy
深谙新加坡关注度的人 who measures the visibility in Singapore.
他声称自己是一位美国的电影制作人 He projected himself to be an American filmmaker,
教导我们这群毫无判断力的 18 19岁的年轻人 and was there to teach us, impressionable 18, 19 year-olds,
如何在新加坡进行电影制作 about film production in Singapore.
我们在班上遇到了苏菲 We met Sophie at the class.
苏菲西迪基哈维电影课程学生
她非常友好 稳重和可靠 She was so nice and stable and trustworthy.
我不确定我和她是否会成为好朋友 I wasn't sure she would make a good friend.
乔治让我们三个 Georges brought the three of us,
苏菲 锦佳和我进入他的核心圈子 Sophie, Jasmine and me into his inner circle.
西西丽雅管理者录像带店 Cecilia runs a video bordello.
我对乔治的第一印象是 My impression of Georges, uh,
他的眼睛闪耀着金属般的光泽 first and foremost, was his eyes, very metallic.
冷漠的蓝色双眸 It was almost ice, icy blue.
他说话时语气沉重 缓慢而又有节奏 He spoke in a very slow, calm, measured tones.
我记得 即使在那个时候 And I just remember, even at that point,
你能感觉到这种不和谐 this kind of dissonance, you know,
他的眼睛看上去很冷漠 the eyes seemed so cold
但行为举止却很热情 but his demeanor seemed so warm.
他有本事让你觉得 And he had this ability
当他跟你讲话时 that when he spoke to you,
你会感觉到他只关注你 you felt that you were his sole focus.
跟我在新加坡认识的其他成年人相比 乔治完全不同 Georges was like no other adult I knew in Singapore.
他喜欢只是坐着 看光的变化 He liked to just sit and watch the light change.
他带我们去拍摄丰富多彩的印度节目 He took us to shoot colorful Hindu festivals
我的家人觉得那些活动很可怕 that my family would have found frightening.
他谈论电影的方式跟我不谋而合 He talked about movies the way I wanted to talk about movies.
他喜欢法国新浪潮 He loved the French New Wave.
我很快也喜欢上了 And soon, so did I.
晚上九点或十点 电影课结束后 When the film class ended at nine or ten at night...
我们和乔治一起开车在岛上兜风 we would drive around the island with Georges.
我们总是在外面待到很晚 尽管我们知道他有老婆和孩子 We kept him out late, even though we knew he had a wife and a baby
在家里等他 waiting for him at home.
我大声嚷嚷 And I barked.
听到蟋蟀的声音了吗？ Can you hear the crickets?
我们去找创意 We went looking for ideas.
我们去找野狗 We went looking for wild dogs.
砰 Bang!
你在拍摄吗？ Were you rolling?
是的 Yeah.
善治 我不知道你喜欢这个 Sandi, I didn't know you were into this.
闭嘴 我今天心情不美丽 Oh, stop it! I'm not in the mood tonight.
配乐不错 Nice soundtrack.
快点 Hurry up.
我们在大声讲话 We're speaking loudly.
所有的情侣们被我们激怒了 他们离开了这里 And all the lovers are sort of aggravated with us and they have cleared the area.
他是我第一个真正心智成熟的男性朋友 He was my first friend who was a grown man.
他选择了我们 He picked us.
但他让我们觉得是我们选了他 But he let us feel like we picked him.
那些开车夜游的经历 跟我的梦境融为一体 Those night drives bled into my dreams.
我当然想拍一部公路电影 Of course I wanted to make a road movie.
然而 我离开了 去一个陌生冰冷的地方 Instead, I went away to a strange, cold place.
英格兰 England.
坎特伯雷肯特大学 学生证
我本以为我会找到自己的同类 I thought I would find my tribe.
但我反倒与他们渐行渐远 But I had left them.
锦佳去了纽约…… Jasmine went to New York...
苏菲去了洛杉矶 Sophie went to LA...
乔治则留在新加坡 And Georges stayed in Singapore.
我感觉孤零零的 I felt so stranded.
全身心投入 I poured all of myself...
给乔治和锦佳 into letters to Georges...
写信 And Jasmine.
就像一部公路电影 和个人黑帮电影
乔治不写信或发邮件 Georges didn't write letters or emails.
在极很少数的情况下 On very rare occasions,
他寄给我录有他声音的录音带 he sent me tape recordings of his voice.
你现在在做什么？ What are you doing now?
嗯… Um...
打算复活节的时候去美国 Thinking of going to the US in Easter.
租辆车 在美国旅行…… And renting a car, then traveling through the US...
从新奥尔良一路到阿肯色 for all the way from New Orleans to Arkansas.
他邀请锦佳和我一起去 He invited Jasmine and me to join him.
没有什么比美国的公路之旅更让我兴奋的了 There were few things that excited me more than the idea of an American road trip.
我心想 让法国新浪潮见鬼去吧 我们要为自己的电影而活 I thought, "Fuck the French New Wave, we're going to live our own movie."
陈善治
一个卖牙刷的人 Sandi Tan, the only child
和一个在太平间工作的人唯一的孩子 of a toothbrush salesman and a worker in a mortuary.
两岁的时候 善治父母双亡 Sandi was parentless from age two.
黄锦佳
新加坡牛车水 Jasmine Ng, the eldest daughter
一个黑帮主要人物的长女 of a mafia kingpin in Singapore's Chinatown,
和一个脑子不是很清楚的 家庭主妇 and a feeble-minded housewife.
乔治卡东那 89岁的哑巴 Georges Cardona is 89 years old and mute.
没有别的信息 No other info available.
锦佳却不这么认为 Jasmine didn't see it that way.
最后 只有我去了 In the end, only I went.
你应该来这里 混蛋
我飞到洛杉矶和乔治碰头 I flew to Los Angeles to meet Georges.
我们一起开车到旧金山 选择了漫长但沿途风景宜人的公路 He and I drove to San Francisco, taking the slowest, most scenic roads.
即使在当时 我也知道这一切看起来是怎么回事 Even back then I knew how it looked.
我与一个已婚年龄是我两倍的男人同行 I was on the road with a married man more than twice my age.
所以我没告诉任何人 So I didn't tell anyone.
他给我信号 He gave me signals,
奇怪的信号 我们进行深夜谈话 strange signals, late night conversations
他说大家都以为我们是恋人 where he told me people thought we were lovers.
一天晚上 他要我摸他的肚皮 And then one night, he invited me to touch his belly.
我没理他 I just ignored him.
甚至想起来 我都觉得不舒服 It disturbed me to even think about it.
我们都假装什么也没发生 And we both pretended it never happened.
接下来我们开车去他长大的地方 新奥尔良 Then we drove to New Orleans where he grew up.
童话梦工厂
乔治带我参观美国南方 那里有苔藓 虫子和鬼故事 Georges was showing me the South, with its moss and bugs and ghost stories.
这里把他熏陶成了一位艺术家 This was the place where he had transformed himself into an artist.
他告诉我 他12岁时 He told me how when he was 12,
亲眼目睹他哥哥在母亲的膝盖上流血而死 he watched his older brother bleed to death on their mother's lap.
他告诉我 杰恩曼斯菲尔德如何在一场车祸中丧生 He told me how when Jayne Mansfield was killed in a car accident...
它的脑袋掉下来 滚到他坐的车跟前 her decapitated head rolled over to where he was in his car.
他告诉我 在电影《性 谎言和录像带》中 詹姆斯斯派德所 He told me he was the inspiration for James Spader's character
扮演的角色 其灵感来自于他 in Sex, Lies, and Videotape.
我需要转移注意力 不再想这趟旅行 Something to take my mind off this trip.
于是我就... So I was just...
我就.. I just...
我就在飞机上做了 I just did it on the plane.
不管他的故事是否真实 Whether his stories were actually true
好像并不是重点 seemed beside the point.
我喜欢他讲故事的方式 I loved his storytelling,
他的故事让时间、地点和真相 and how his stories made time and place and truth
显得非常恐怖 absolutely porous.
……党的主要成员…… ...the dominant member of the party...
我的眼前突然出现了 60年代 I was suddenly staring at a puddle of blood
客厅里的一滩血 in a living room in the '60s.
杰恩曼斯菲尔德的头 仿佛就在我的面前 I was two degrees away from Jayne Mansfield's head,
史蒂文索德伯格近在咫尺 three degrees from Steven Soderbergh.
那趟公路旅行非常重要 还有另一个原因 That road trip was significant for another reason.
我选择乔治当我的最新挚友 I chose Georges as my new best friend.
我们谈论一起拍电影…… We talked about making a movie together...
一部公路电影 a road movie.
我回到学校 全力以赴创作剧本 I went back to school and immediately threw everything into a script.
《逃避者》
“S告诉她最好的朋友TB 世界末日来临时 她可以拯救世界 "S tells her best friend TB she can save the world when it ends.
她的工具是游戏、玩具和她的想象力 Her tools are games,?toys, and her imagination.
她拯救世界里的一小部分人 开始于... She saves the world in small numbers, starting with..."
在我幻想中的世界里 有权力人物 In my vision of the world, there are movers,
能呼风唤雨的人 there are shakers,
还有逃避者 and there are shirkers.
乔治给我发了一份传真 Georges sent me a fax.
这个...剧本 堪称...杰作
我哭了
故事开始于... It started out with...
一个名叫S的神秘主人公 the mysteriously-named lead character S.
我不知道这代表了什么 I wonder what that stands for.
我打算在一个花40分钟 就可以 My idea was to do a road movie in a country
开车横跨的国家里 拍一部公路电影 you can drive across in 40 minutes.
我们跟踪这个在新加坡四处游荡的神秘角色 We follow this cryptic character, she goes around Singapore.
她或许是死神 She might have been the Grim Reaper,
逐个干掉这些角色 带他们开启死后的旅程 just picking off these characters and taking them on this afterlife journey.
因为善治痴迷于伯格曼 Because Sandi had an obsession with Bergman.
《第七封印》1957年
我不...我讨厌伯格曼 I don't have... I hated Bergman.
不管怎样 继续吧 你能开始描述一下情节吗 But anyway, go on. Can we start and you describe the plot?
身为编剧 你知道这不是三幕式结构 You as the screenwriter, this was not a three-act structure.
我们怎么能… How could we...?
给我看一样东西 19岁的人会说 It's only something that 19-year-olds could've just said,
“我们去做吧 为何不行” "Let's go do it. Why not?"
六月我写完了剧本 I finished the script in June,
我们必须在7月开拍 and we had to start shooting in July
赶在锦佳和苏菲开学前 before the school term began for Jasmine and Sophie.
花了不到两个半月的时间 It was less than two and a half months.
前期制作 Pre-production.
不 前期制作和拍片 No, pre-production and shoot for a feature
我们大部分人白天还得工作 while most of us were still working day jobs.
如你所说 你是唯一不上班的人 Like I said, you were the only one who was not working.
我记得... I remember, um,
莎伦西迪基 苏菲的母亲
在这个三人组合中 你是负责人 that you were the sort of "chief ideologue" of the trio.
苏菲是跑腿的 Sophie was the gopher.
锦佳 Jasmine...
负责技术 was the technical person,
她总是纠结于这样那样的问题 I think, who was, you know, always fussing with this and that.
我们最后分裂成两个阵营 We eventually broke into two camps,
锦佳和苏菲认为我们应该等一年 明年夏天再拍 Jasmine and Sophie, who thought we should wait a year and do it next summer...
我和乔治只想把电影赶快拍完 versus me and Georges who just wanted to get the film made.
沃纳赫尔佐格的《陆上行舟》是乔治最喜爱的影片之一 One of Georges' favorite films was Werner Herzog's Fitzcarraldo...
《陆上行舟》是沃纳·赫尔佐格执导的剧情片，由克劳斯·金斯基主演，1982年3月4日上映
影片中 疯狂的克劳斯金斯基 in which the mad Klaus Kinski
指挥一群亚马逊土著人 commands an army of Amazonian natives
替他把一艘船拖着翻山越岭 to pull a ship over a mountain for him.
这份灵感指引着乔治 This is one of Georges' guiding inspirations.
我也深受其影响 And it became mine too.
你一直是一个意志坚定 且野心勃勃的人 You've always been?a very determined and?quite ambitious person.
你会不惜一切代价 把事情做成 You just wanted it done at any cost,
赴汤蹈火也在所不辞 and you were willing to just burn things
只要能拍成自己的电影 just so that you could make your own film.
好吧 Well, okay,
但多年来我一直计划要拍电影 but after years of plotting to make a film,
我可不能让这个机会白白溜走 I couldn't just let this opportunity slip by.
锦佳并不是什么专家 It wasn't as if Jasmine was an expert.
她设计的这份试镜海报独具风格 She designed this audition flyer in her unique style.
《逃避者》剧组人员试镜通知
当然了 没人能看懂 自然也没人来参加试镜 Of course nobody could read it so nobody showed up.
我们让更符合常规的人重新设计 她义愤填膺 She was furious when we got someone more conventional to try again.
《逃避者》电影
她觉得我们在出卖自己 She thought we were selling out.
别担心 Don't worry about it.
只是非正式即兴表演 It's just gonna be like informal improvisational kind of exercise.
我的左边脸 我的右边脸 My left side, my right side.
嗯 没错 Yeah, right.
把你的号码举起来 Hold up your number.
凯伦 咪咪 第五次试镜
苏菲和锦佳负责试镜 The auditions were run by Sophie and Jasmine.
基本上 这部电影的主角是16岁 Basically, the main character of the film is 16 years old.
嘿 哇让我仔细看看 Hey. Wow.?Let me have a closer look.
好 请想象一下你开着车 Okay, can you just imagine you're in the car right now...
四周转悠 把那些老妇人全撞倒了 and you're going around, you're knocking all these old women down and... You know?
好 Okay.
-对的 -非常好 - Yeah. - That's all right.
乔治无踪无影 悄无声息 Georges was nowhere to be seen or heard.
除了在这里 Except here.
我是编剧 And so I was the screenwriter,
苏菲是制片人 Sophie was the producer,
锦佳是剪辑 Jasmine would be the editor...
乔治是导演 and Georges was the director.
此致 苏菲西迪基 执行制片人
身为制片人 苏菲虽然年仅19岁 Sophie, as our 19-year-old?producer,
但写信的语气跟资深执行制片人无异 wrote letters in the voice of an experienced executive producer.
我跟一个重要人物约好了要见面 I secured a meeting with a high-profile person,
这花了我很多时间 还要鼓足勇气 and it took me a lot of time and courage,
在那人来之前 乔治对我说 and before the person arrived, Georges said to me,
“好 你现在到厨房去” "Okay, now you go into the kitchen.
我去见面” I'm gonna take the meeting."
那个时刻 我难受极了 That was a very difficult moment for me.
我不相信乔治 I didn't believe in Georges.
我不相信乔治 但我相信这部电影 I did not believe in Georges, but I believed in the film.
我朝乔治吼 Do I yell at Georges
还是最好待在厨房 or is it better for me to remain in the kitchen
让他敲定这笔交易 以便电影能够继续下去 and have him secure the deal so the film could move forward?
我选择了 电影 And I chose the film.
我们要在实际经验非常有限的情况下 We were trying to mount a feature film
来拍一部故事片 on the scantest of practical knowledge.
我们的制片助理才14岁 We had a production assistant who was 14 years old.
乔治劝说 罗尼 给我们拍电影 Georges talked Ronnie, a 30-year-old first time DP
罗尼30岁 into shooting the film for us.
第一次担任摄影指导 I got involved as a sound man,
付方梁 音效和美术指导
我负责音效 我自愿做分镜设计 and I volunteered to do the storyboarding.
我不知道《逃避者》在讲什么 I have no clue what Shirkers is about.
-可以这样说吗？会不会冒犯你？-不会 - Can I say that? Would that offend you? - No, no, no.
我祖母扮演我祖母 我小堂妹演我小堂妹 My grandmother played my grandmother and my baby cousin played my baby cousin.
她柔软的小胳膊讲述着自己的小故事 Her furry little arms had their own little story.
“哦 我以为”太好了 我们在找人演护士 我就是 Oh, I thought, "Oh, great, they're looking for a nurse, and I'm one."
蔡宝顺 饰护士塞西莉亚 《逃避者》
我一直想看看拍戏究竟是怎么回事 I've always wanted to see what acting is all about, you know?
我劝说菲利普 来演交通协管员 I talked Philip into playing the crossing guard...
因为对我来说 他就是这样的人 because that's essentially what he was to me.
第一次听到《逃避者》这个项目时 我觉得是时候了 When I first heard about?the Shirkers project, I thought, it's about time.
唯一在新加坡拍摄的独立电影 The only sort of independent feature films that were shot in Singapore
是著名的《他们称她为王埃及艳后》 were like the legendary They Call Her Cleopatra Wong.
真正的国产电影很少 对吧？ There was very little domestic filmmaking activity, right?
《三分熟》之后我们会拍摄下一部国产电影 And then we were going to be the next film after Medium Rare.
这部影片讲述了一个新加坡连环杀手 Medium Rare was a film about a Singaporean serial killer
由一位美国电视演员出演 who was played by an American TV actor.
拜托 我们肯定会做得更好 And come on, we can do better than that.
我们派了很多人去全岛各地采景 We dispatched an army of location scouts across the island.
导师鲍勃的公寓 贝当路 黑白颗粒世界里的房子
东赛硕斯巷 紧靠儿童挥手的地方
我确保他们一定要找到人体模特店 I made sure they found the mannequin shops...
还有我深爱的老式糕点房 and the old-timey bakery that I loved
因为我知道这些地方 不会存留很久时间 because I knew they wouldn't be around for long.
嘉东面包厂
锦佳和苏菲与柯达和电影器材公司协商 Jasmine and Sophie negotiated with Kodak and the film equipment houses...
我们免费获得了 所有的胶片和拍摄器材 and we got all our film and camera equipment for free.
还有最后 一个角色没找到演员 就是女主角S There's one last character that hasn't found an actor yet. The heroine S.
我甚至觉得我也演不了 因为它根本就不是个角色 I even felt like I couldn't play the role, 'cause it was a non-role.
你想扮演这个角色 You wanted to play the role.
你来演这个角色是否是正确决定 Whether it was a good decision to have cast you in the role,
我觉得答案在片子中不言而喻 I think the footage will speak for itself.
对 Yeah.
外景 埃塞克斯街 下午 "Exterior: S's Street, afternoon.
一个悠闲的郊外小区 一层小楼处处可见 A lazy suburban neighborhood with rows of one-story houses,
除草机的声音餐具的叮当响 小狗汪汪叫 lawnmower sounds, cutlery clangs, whining puppies,
收音机传来模糊的上海30年代歌曲 and faint sounds of radio fuzzying with '30s Shanghai showtunes,
摄像机沿着房子的前面推进 直到我们进入镜头 track along the fronts of the houses until camera frame bumps into S.
我们16岁的主角进入场景 Our 16-year-old protagonist enters the scene
拿着一个旧皮箱和一部旧摄像机 with an old suitcase and an old camera."
她回家了 She is coming home.
S和她的祖母住在一起 S lives with her grandmother...
还有她的小堂妹 舞舞 and her cousin, baby Woo Woo.
她最好的朋友TB就住在隔壁 They live next door?to her best friend TB.
TB和她妈一起住 他妈是个烟鬼 爱看电视 TB lives with her mother, who loves to smoke and watch TV.
她还有个弟弟TJ And her little brother TJ,
他骑车在小区里闲逛 找麻烦 who rides around the neighborhood looking for trouble.
在一个美好的日子里 S叫TB跟她去射杀她的钢琴老师 One beautiful day, S gets TB to go with her to shoot her piano teacher.
TB太忙 没法和她一起去 When TB gets too busy to hang out with her,
S去找新的跟班 S goes looking for a new sidekick...
和另外四个她足够喜欢很想干掉的人 and four more people she likes enough to kill.
她睡在草地上她最喜欢的地方 Sleeping on her favorite spot in the grass,
碰到一个叫拉曼的视力检查员 她跟他一起去了他家 she meets a visibility inspector named Rahman and goes home with him.
她绑架了他的小儿子哈里欧 She abducts his little son, Haryo.
她和哈里欧在岛上到处走 想找更多人 She and Haryo walk around the island looking for more people to collect.
他们发现了护士塞西莉亚和她的大狗 珍爱 They spot Cecilia, the nurse, and her giant dog, Cherish,
跟着他们回家 and follow them home.
他们碰到了塞西莉亚的女儿魔鬼 They meet Cecilia's daughter, Monster,
她患有癫痫 但喜欢跳舞 who is epileptic, but who loves to dance.
S是麦田里的守望者 S is a Catcher in the Rye...
所以他们现在有3个人了 and so they are three.
他们一起遇到了蒙大拿鲍勃 Together, they meet Montana Bob.
他是个搞笑的家伙 所以他们跟着他去了他家 He's a funny dude, so they follow him home.
与此同时 S一直碰到一个神秘男孩 Meanwhile, there's the mystery boy S keeps encountering.
她对他产生了感情 这意味着她必须杀了他 She develops feelings for him, which means she has to kill him.
搞定两个了 还有三个 That's two down, three to go.
她碰到艾伯特 他靠做胶带生意白手起家致富 She meets Albert, the self-made man who built a fortune in sticky tape,
他迫切想炫耀自己新盖的大房子 and he's eager to show off his massive new house.
S遇见了他的妻子咪咪 S meets his wife Mimi...
他们的儿子罗伯特 their son Robert...
以及他们的女佣 阿特罗和西菲卡 and their maids,?Portrero and Pacifica.
罗伯特说他是个纸上谈兵的享乐主义者 Robert tells S he's an armchair hedonist.
他们开出去 They go driving.
他的朋友都是书呆子 His friends are all dweebs.
时间不多了 Time is running out.
S还要带3个人 跟她一起去另外一个世界 And S has three more people to take to the other world with her.
不清楚这个世界是天堂 It's not clear if this world is heaven,
地狱还是超市 hell or a supermarket.
所以事情可能会发生 So things happen.
或者不会发生 Or maybe they don't.
因为这一切可能只是一场梦 Because maybe this whole thing was a dream after all.
因为情节都无关紧要 Well, because, like, the plot?was almost immaterial.
-这只是一部描述情绪的影片 -对 - You know, it was a mood piece. It was... - Yeah.
我也不知道 I don't know.
我的剧本要求 要一条全新加坡最大的狗 My script called for the largest dog?in the country,
苏菲找到一条叫巨无霸的巨型猎狼犬 and Sophie got hold of this giant wolfhound named Mega.
索菲和锦佳 趁超市经理不注意的时候 Then Sophie and Jasmine sneaked him into the supermarket...
偷偷把它带进超市 when the manager's back was turned.
我假装癫痫发作 I faked a seizure...
为了把人群吸引过来 in order to draw crowds.
所以我也负责吸引人群 So I was the crowd wrangler as well.
苏菲和锦佳把这些老人 从养老院骗了出来 Sophie and Jasmine stole these seniors out of an old folks home.
在他们明白发生了什么事之前 就把他们送了回去 And returned them before they even knew what happened.
我们让所有成年妇女吸烟 And we made?all the grown up women smoke.
吸烟 And smoke.
还是吸烟 And smoke.
我们从朋友和陌生人那里 拍摄到了一些惊人的表演 We captured some startling performances from friends and strangers.
你演买洗衣粉的女士 演的真棒 You were really great as the Detergent Lady.
我其实演的不好 你喜欢取笑自己的朋友 I was not really great. I think you love laughing at your friends.
芙蕾达扮演我的闺蜜TB There was Freda as my best friend TB.
凯琳扮演我残疾的跟班魔鬼 Kaylene as my disabled sidekick, Monster.
宝顺扮演魔鬼的妈妈 And Pohshon as Monster's mom.
你原本要把我的孩子从我身边夺走 我... You were supposed to take my child away from me and I was like...
痛哭 因为你要永远夺走她 crying because you're gonna take her away from me for good
瞧 你把我弄哭了 and, see, you're making me cry now.
我们的激情和真诚 Our passion and our earnestness...
让我们取得了进展 came through.
当时我认为《逃避者》... At that time, I thought?that Shirkers...
郑叶杰 影评人
正如它所宣传的那样 as it was proposed,
非常棒 超越时代 was incredible, it was way ahead of its time.
那个时期 美国在拍类似的电影 This was a period when America was making some of these movies
由薇诺娜瑞德主演 with Winona Ryder, I believe.
《希德姐妹帮》1998年
我认为新加坡能有这方面的事 And I think that to have a Singapore side of things
尤其这是由善治带头的 and especially when it's fronted by Sandi,
绝对让我震惊 absolutely astounds me.
你读过剧本了吗？觉得它很幼稚吗？ Did you ever read the script? Like, did you feel it was childish?
对 但这正是它的美妙所在 对吗 你知道的 Yeah, but that was the beauty of it, right? You know that.
你知道的 它很个人化 不是吗 You know that. It was so personal, wasn't it?
乔治想出了一个创意 要拍摄一组场景 Georges came up with an idea for a set piece.
很久以后 我才意识到这个创意根本不是他的 And it was only much later that I realized the idea wasn't even his.
《巴黎 德州》1984年
我的朋友里昂非常自负 My friend Leon was so full of himself,
宣称所有女孩都爱他 claiming that every girl was in love with him.
我给他安排了一种 我认为他理应获得的命运 And so I gave him the kind of fate I thought he deserved.
在我的《逃避者》的世界里 有不同类型的男孩 In my world of Shirkers, there were different categories of boys:
我认为令人愉悦的男孩 the boys I thought delectable,
我喜欢 可以当好友的男孩 the boys I liked as good friends,
和在生活中一样 and as in life,
我和陌生男人交朋友 I made friends with strange men
因为在这方面我很大胆 because I was bold in that way.
关于《逃避者》最令我难忘的记忆是 One of the most visceral memories I have of Shirkers
在保龄球馆的一场戏 was the scene in the bowling alley.
我们花了一整天的时间进行拍摄 We spent a whole day shooting.
投入了很多情感能量 It involved a lot of emotional energy.
记住 你18到19岁的样子 Remember, you know, you're 18, 19.
最后 我记得我问乔治 In the end, I remember asking Georges,
“怎么样？拍摄如何？” "How was it? You know, how were the takes?"
他看着我说 “从第一次拍摄开始 摄像机就卡带了” And he looked at me and he's like, "The camera jammed on the first take."
所以…我们什么也没拍到 So... we'd shot nothing.
我甚至不知道 因为他的缘故 我浪费了 And this was, I don't even know how many hours in that day,
多少个小时 and I lost it with him.
第二天我们不得不重返保龄球馆 We had to go back to the bowling alley the next day
一切从头再来 and do it all over again.
-你开得太快了 快停下 -不行 - You're going too fast, man. Pull out! - I can't! I can't!
你为什么追他？你知道你不管这个案子了 Why are you chasing him? You know you're off the case.
老板会生气的 The boss is gonna have your ass!
拍摄期间 我们的朋友本 忙着为 While we were shooting, our friend Ben was busy
《逃避者》创作配音 working on the soundtrack for Shirkers.
我是通过《爆炸猫》和《大O》杂志了解你 I knew you from Exploding Cat and BigO magazine.
当时我唯一的资源就是一盘录音带 At the time, I guess my resources meant that I would have just had one tape.
在吉他上 A lot of little doodles...
信手弹奏 on guitar...
电子吉他和很多反向创作 electric, a lot of backwards stuff, I think.
第一次 我记得自己浑身起鸡皮疙瘩 The first time, I remember my skin crawling.
当时在纽顿熟食中心 有人把我从你们身边带走 It was like I was ushered away from you guys at Newton Circus.
我没想到 乔治把我拉到一边 What I wasn't expecting is Georges to take me aside,
带到他车上 escort me to his car,
好像黑帮碰面或警察跟线人见面 like some gangster meeting or a policeman meeting an informer
或类似的情况 跟电影中的画面一模一样 or something like that, straight out of the movies.
我想 “好吧 他要听我的录音带 ” I thought, "Okay, he's going to listen to the cassette of the stuff I have,"
我觉得有点怪 因为它是给你们的 但我不明白 which I thought was odd because it was for you guys, but I didn't get that.
他只是在威胁我 He was just threatening me,
问我有什么目的 训我... sussing me out to see if I had an agenda and, you know, telling me off that...
“别占这些人便宜”或类似的话 "Don't take advantage of these guys" or something like that.
我说 “什么？你说什么” I was like, "What? Sorry?"
他还告诉我一个 比我更专业 He also tells me that a far more professional
更有成就的音乐人正在创作配乐 and established musician was working on the soundtrack,
我不知道这回事 which was news to me.
但你把录音带留给他了 But you left the tape with him.
-是的 我以为你会拿到这些东西 -为什么？ - Yeah. I thought they were going to you. - Why?
我当时并不知道 乔治拿走了 本的唯一的录音带…… I didn't know it then, but Georges took Ben's only tape...
不准他来片场看我们 and banned him from visiting us on the set.
我记不清具体的一系列事件 I don't remember exactly the chain of events,
但事情变得越来越糟 but things just got worse and worse.
锦佳开始记录所发生的事情 Jasmine started keeping notes about what was actually going on.
读吧 是你写的 Just read it. You wrote this.
“一切都是不确定的 "Everything is bloody uncertain.
c先生不知道他在做什么 Mr. C. Has no idea what he's doing,
也不知道怎么去弄钱 he has no idea how he's gonna get the money.
他声称有一个制片经理 曾参与过《现代启世录》的拍摄 He claims he has a production manager who worked on Apocalypse Now."
那是谁？ Who was that?
我不知道 I don't know.
你在那 你参加了会议... You were there. You were at the meeting...
很明显 那人没来 Obviously that person didn't show up.
我指出这么多问题 我们怎么还能继续下去 How can we continue with this when I was pointing all these things out?
所以这是真的 So it was true.
只有你和乔治希望这件事发生 It was just really you and Georges who wanted this to happen.
所以你当时对这些进度报告一点都不在意 You weren't paying attention to any of these progress reports.
我在意 我只是觉得 我们可以即兴发挥 I was paying attention, but I just thought we're just gonna wing it.
我能怎么办 Like I do.
因为我们在做跑腿的活 Because we were doing the work... doing the legwork,
你认为你可以即兴发挥 and you thought you were just gonna wing it.
你绝对是个混蛋 你一直都是个混蛋 You were obviously being an asshole. You've always been an asshole.
正如你有能力成为非常棒的人 Just as much as you have the capacity to be really wonderful,
你也有能力成为混蛋 you have as much capacity of being an asshole.
或许我是个混蛋 So maybe I was an asshole,
但我只是希望 无论如何我们都会继续 but I just wanted us to keep going, no matter what.
没时间思考 There was no time to think.
乔治从一座俯瞰铁轨的桥上来拍摄我们 Georges was shooting us from a bridge overlooking the track.
火车 Train.
在听到他的警告之前 我就听到了火车的声音 I heard the train even before I heard his warning.
他那样浪费我们的时间 你觉得对他来说好玩吗 Do you think it was fun for him to dick us around like that?
当然了 你怎么想的 Of course. What do you think?
还有两个星期 我们没钱了 With two weeks left to go, we ran out of money.
乔治说他只需要1万美元 Georges said he needed just $10,000...
否则拍摄会被迫中止 or the production would have to be shut down.
苏菲和我觉得我们好不容易 取得目前的进展 不可以停下 Sophie and I felt we'd come too far to let this happen.
乔治开车带我们到不同的自动取款机 So Georges drove us from ATM to ATM.
接下来的几个晚上…… And over the next few nights...
苏菲和我取出了所有积蓄 Sophie and I withdrew all of our savings.
我们没告诉任何人 We never told a soul.
拍摄结束后 After shooting wrapped,
苏菲、锦佳和我花光了所有的钱 Sophie, Jasmine and I were completely spent.
不过我们成就了非凡之事 But we had pulled off the impossible,
拍成了一部电影 we made a movie!
苏菲回到了洛杉矶 Sophie went back to LA.
锦佳回到了纽约 Jasmine went back to New York.
我回到了英国 I went back to England.
乔治留在新加坡 处理70盒电影胶片 Leaving Georges in Singapore to process the 70 cans of film
告诉我们影片的拍摄效果 and to tell us what the footage looked like.
我们拍摄的东西 我们一帧也没看到 None of us had seen a single frame of what we had shot.
于是... And so...
我等着 I waited.
继续等 And I waited.
一直等 And I waited.
圣诞节过去了 Christmas went by.
新年过去了 New Years went by.
乔治卡东那终于 Finally, a package arrived...
寄来了一个包裹 from Georges Cardona.
希望你一切安好 I hope you're fine.
我希望你能打开一瓶酒 I hope you managed to open your bottle of wine.
一口气喝完 Don't drink it all at one time.
这是古典钢琴曲 有肖邦 Listen to classical music. Piano, Chopin,
贝多芬 Beethoven.
非常舒缓 It's very soothing.
好吧 先说到这里 Okay, that's it for now.
我会再给你寄东西来 I'll be sending you some stuff.
于是 我继续等 And so I waited some more.
夏天又快来了 Summer was approaching again.
当时 锦佳心想 她也许应该回一趟新加坡 And that was when Jasmine thought she might have to go back to Singapore,
去剪辑那部电影 to edit the film.
读一下吧 Just read it...
“他认为苏菲和我都反应过激了……” "He thinks that both Sophie and I are overreacting...
疑神疑鬼 完全没必要 and falling into unnecessary fits of paranoia."
因为在我工作的地方 我可以 Because of where I was working at, it would have been possible for me
剪辑 完成电影 把一切做好 to edit the film, finish the film, do everything.
我终于又收到一卷录音带 I finally received another tape.
嗨 Hi.
首先 电话响了…… First of all, the telephone rang...
是从纽约打来的 and it was, well, it's New York calling.
你的闺蜜今天打电话过来 Your very best friend called today.
凌晨三点 她在看电视 她 At three o'clock in the morning she was watching TV and she was...
你能听到我说话吗？ "Can you hear me?
我们想知道电影的进展怎么样了？ We were wondering how the film is doing?"
于是我问 ：“我们是指谁？” So I said, "Who is we?"
她说：“拜托 我们是属于这个世界的人” She said, "Oh, come on, we, the people in this part of the world."
她像个真正的美国人 她说 “我们是美国人” So she's truly American, she speaks like, "We, the people of the United States."
总之 Um, anyway...
我决定我最好录制这盘磁带 So I decided I better make this recording
以防更多奇怪的电话打进来 before any more strange calls come through.
这是我们最后一次听到他的消息 That was the last we heard from him.
他消失了 He was gone.
《逃避者》也不见了 And so was Shirkers.
我就像被大卡车撞了一样 It really hit me like a ten-ton truck.
真的令人精疲力竭 That really exhausted...
那一瞬间 我身体里的所有能量仿佛被抽干了 I think I just, like all?that energy just zapped out of me in that one instant.
我的一部分灵魂死掉了 There was a piece of my spirit that died.
我只剩下 All I was left with...
这些模糊的记忆 were these fuzzy memories...
置身于片场…… of being on the set...
我只是等待着 and just waiting.
就像照片中的一家人 就在那里 Is Sandi in the picture?
摄影机就绪 Camera ready.
乔治把一切都拿走了 Georges took everything.
从模糊的记忆深处 From deep in the fuzz,
我记得最后一件事 I remembered one final incident.
在拍摄的最后一天 On the last day of the shoot,
只剩下乔治 罗尼和我 only Georges, Ronnie and I were left.
我们开车到机场附近的一片空地 We drove out to a patch of land by the airport...
搭建了一个非常奇怪的装置 and built a very strange contraption.
目的是让小演员罗埋诺飞起来 It was to make our young actor Romaino fly.
但我的剧本里没有这样的飞行场景 But there was no such flying scene in my script.
我问乔治：“我们怎么才能把安全带和绳索处理掉” "How are we gonna get rid of the harness and the rope?" I asked Georges.
他说：“别担心 有电脑” "Don't worry," he said, "There's computers."
花了好几个小时拍完这个编造场景后 After the long hours spent trying to film that completely made up scene,
他不小心打开摄像机的盖子 he popped open the camera by mistake.
或许不是意外 Or maybe it wasn't by mistake.
里面没有胶片 And there was no film in it.
25年后 Twenty-five years later...
我不知道他当时是不是 再给我传达一则只有我能懂的讯息 I'm now wondering if he was sending me a secret message only I would understand.
我的剧本里有一场戏 哈里欧发现 There's a scene in my script where Haryo discovers
S的摄像机里没有胶片 there's no film in S's camera.
她告诉他：“没关系 因为当你透过那个洞观看 She tells him, "It doesn't matter, because when you look through the hole
按下按钮 就会捕捉到东西 and go 'click' it catches something
至少你大脑捕捉到了东西 or at least your mind?catches something."
你不需要胶片做这件事就能帮你记住 You don't need film. Just the action of doing that helps you remember.
他当时想告诉我什么？ What was he trying to tell me?
不管有没有胶片 "Film or no film,
你必须记住这一点 you must remember this."
他在扮演导演吗？ Was he role-playing as a director?
他只是把这次的电影制作过程 Did he just view this entire filmmaking venture
当成一次心理练习？ as this psychological exercise?
我们不再是拍摄一部电影的魔法小孩了 We were no longer magical kids who made a movie.
我们只是小孩 We were just kids.
《逃避者》是一部非常自由的电影 因为你们自己非常自由 Shirkers is such a free film because you were very free yourself.
你愿意体验和自由表达你们的思想 It was such a joy that you were willing to experiment
这本身就是一件乐事 and express anything on your mind.
但当我失去《逃避者》后 But when I lost Shirkers,
快乐也离我远去 I lost that too.
别把我扯进去 我拒绝卷入其中 Don't get me in it. I refuse to be part of this thing.
22岁的我为新加坡最大的报纸 I became a terrible 22-year-old film critic
写影评 我糟糕透顶 at the largest newspaper in Singapore.
（塔伦帝诺卓越的粗俗）
（倾听你的内心世界 世界会支持你 观看《贵妇画像》）
（《天生杀人狂》堪称里程碑）
我要求他们让我采访 我所崇拜的偶像们 And I made them let me interview my heroes.
（埃及艳后卷土重来）
一位出版商找到我 让我写一部关于《逃避者》小说化的回忆录 A publisher approached me to write a fictionalized memoir of Shirkers...
但我说我还没准备好 but I said I wasn't ready.
在接下来的几年内 采访人要我谈论《逃避者》 In the years that followed, I said no to interviewers
我都拒绝了 asking me to talk about Shirkers.
我只是想忘掉这件事 It was something I just wanted to forget.
《逃避者》拍摄完成五年后 Exactly five years after Shirkers wrapped...
锦佳的办公室收到一个神秘的包裹 a mysterious package arrived at Jasmine's office.
是乔治卡东那寄来的录像带 They were videotapes from Georges Cardona,
这就意味着里面是《逃避者》 which had to mean they contained Shirkers.
我记得 也许不准确 I remember, maybe incorrectly,
当时大家都欣喜若狂 that it was a very kind of joyous occasion.
苏菲 我和你会来…… Sophie, me and you were going to come...
在我上班的地方 对 It was at my workplace, yeah.
我们准备一起看这些录像带 And we were gonna watch these tapes.
结果这些录像带 Then they all turned out to be...
为什么只是雪花点？ Was it all just snow?
似乎什么也没有 Like there was really nothing.
我想 太残酷了 And I thought, "How cruel."
我是说 他为何还要玩这种心理游戏？ I mean, what stakes did he still have in this mind game?
把东西给我们 让我们把电影做完 Give us the material so we can finish the film.
我们无法相信情况有多荒谬 We couldn't believe how ridiculous the situation was.
多离奇 无法想象 So surreal, so unimaginable.
（真是个王八蛋）
我对乔治愤怒万分 I was beyond furious with Georges,
但我的怒火无从发泄 but there was nowhere for me to direct my rage.
所以我把一切都写了下来 So I wrote it all down.
（信封里的秘密计划）
我使用烟幕技术和漂亮的剪辑手法 "I envisage some measure?of a showdown...
（《他们称她为王埃及艳后》1978年）
设想出影片的最终结局 ...with pyrotechnics and slick editing."
就我看来 As far as I'm concerned,
他应该消失在深远的亚马逊丛林中 他罪有应得 he should disappear deep and far into the Amazon jungle, where he belongs,
与他的同类 长着龅牙的蟒蛇在一起 amongst his distinct relation, the buck-toothed boa.
卑鄙小人 Lowlife."
我们强迫自己重新开始 We forced ourselves to move on.
我的小堂弟耀 My baby cousin Yao...
给我这本蚊子收藏册 gave me this book of mosquitoes.
不过我的小堂弟堂妹 已经不再是小孩子了 But my baby cousins were no longer babies.
你什么都看不到了 You can't see anything.
我欣然接受 我人生的一部分会永远消失 I made my peace that a chunk of my life would forever be lost.
我搬到纽约 And I moved to New York...
去哥伦比亚大学读电影学院 to attend film school at Columbia University.
我知道我是反着来的 I know I was doing things backwards.
我先拍了一部电影 First I made a movie,
然后成为影评家 then I became a film critic,
然后才去念电影学院 then I went to film school.
不过当你失去地图后 就会发生这种事 But that's what happens when you no longer have a map.
我在荒野里度过了十年 I spent ten years in the wilderness.
我试着写 I tried to write that book...
关于制作《逃避者》的书 about the making of Shirkers.
不过我还是无法起笔 But I just couldn't do it.
相反 我写了一些电影剧本 这些剧本永远不会被搬到屏幕 Instead, I wrote screenplays for films that would never be made.
《逃避者》现在成了一个遥远的记忆 Shirkers was now a distant memory.
然后它开始向我发送求救信号 Then it began sending me distress signals.
看《青春年少》时 我听到了砰砰声 I heard these pings?when I saw Rushmore.
（赫曼J布鲁姆 海洋观测站）
在《幽灵世界》里 And I heard them again...
我再次听到这些声音 during Ghost World.
然后再度沉寂 Then silence once more.
不过我现在知道它又复活了 But I knew now that it was alive.
我知道我们会再次相遇 And I knew we had to meet again.
突然间 我发现30多岁的自己 Suddenly, I found myself in my mid-30s,
偏偏来到洛杉矶 in Los Angeles, of all places.
我决定转向创作小说 I decided to turn to fiction.
因为写小说的话 我不需要等待任何人 Because to write a novel, I didn't have to wait for anyone.
只是我 It's just me...
和我的幽灵 and my ghosts.
（选择故事 而不是媒体）
我的小说《黑岛》 My novel, The Black Isle, was the story
讲述的是一个拥有超能力的女孩 of a young woman with extraordinary powers
她迷恋一个极富魅力却邪恶的男人 who falls under the influence of a charismatic, but sinister man.
写作这本小说就好像驱魔一样 Writing it felt like an exorcism.
不过我错了 But I would be wrong about that.
2011年9月11日 On September 11, 2011,
我收到一封电子邮件 来自一个熟悉的名字 I received an email from a familiar name.
是乔治的太太 It was Georges's wife.
她说乔治死了 She said Georges was dead.
她也告诉我 她发现了70盒标有《逃避者》的胶片 She also told me she had found 70 cans of film
它们都保存完好 labeled Shirkers, and that they were all in perfect condition.
我感觉一个持续了20年的诅咒终于被解除了 I felt as if a curse, which lasted 20 years, had finally been lifted.
他的遗孀给我寄来一盒盒我好多年没见过的东西 His widow sent me box after box of things I hadn't seen in years.
乔治保留了所有的东西 Georges had kept everything.
我拿出一些在他的工作室里拍摄的一些胶片 I pulled out some of the slides that were taken in his studio.
还有凯琳 And there was Kaylene,
扮演魔鬼的那个女孩 the girl who played Monster,
她周围都是我的东西 surrounded by my stuff.
为什么乔治保留着《逃避者》 Now why would Georges keep?everything...
所有的东西？ from Shirkers?
他甚至代表剧组写了这封信 He even wrote this letter on behalf of the crew.
“目前该片正在剪辑中” "At the moment, the film is in the editing suite.
不过我们很快就要完成了 But we are almost there.
《逃避者》会在十月份完成 Shirkers will be completed by October,
但愿能赶上戛纳 hopefully in time for Cannes Festival.
祝你今天愉快 Have a nice day."
（马萨诸塞州 剑桥）
乔治和他的故事太不寻找了 很难给他定位 Georges and his stories were so exotic that he was very hard to place.
（格蕾丝戴恩马祖尔乔治20世纪80年代的朋友）
我记得刚开始 他从头到尾讲述电影 I remember first he started describing movies from start to finish.
然后他开始讲述他自己的人生故事 And then he started telling stories about his own life.
他们一家人想要摧毁一座大坝 His family wanted to demolish a dam,
我猜是在他们的土地上 I guess, on their property
让河流再次流淌 and make the river flow again.
所以乔治建造了一个三节火箭 So Georges built a three-stage rocket.
他的手被炸掉了 And his hand got exploded.
他告诉我 他在哥伦比亚的哥哥 He told me about his brother?in Colombia
冲进房子里 股动脉上插着一把刀 running into the house with a knife in his femoral artery
在厨房地板上流血而死 and bleeding to death on the kitchen floor.
他被捕了 He got arrested, uh...
逮捕他的警察认为他是一个古巴窃贼 by the police, who thought he was a Cuban burglar.
在监狱里 他给新奥尔良的叔叔打电话 From jail, he called an uncle in New Orleans
那个叔叔说 “来新奥尔良吧 我会照顾你的” and that uncle said,?"Come to New Orleans. I'll take care of you."
在某一时刻 我发现我的脚湿了 And at one point my foot felt wet,
我意识到他被自己的故事感动哭了 and I realized he was in tears at his own stories
他的眼泪滴落在我的脚上 and his tears were dropping on my foot.
在莱佛士酒店的游泳池里 These were all stories Georges told Grace
1985年 乔治在认识格蕾丝的第一天 on the very first day they met
就把这些故事告诉了她 in the swimming pool of the Raffles Hotel in 1985.
然后我在想 天啊 他还不知道我的名字呢 And then I thought, "Good God, he doesn't even know my name."
陈善治已经不再是孩子 No longer a child,
她让自己变成了一个侦探 Sandi Tan has turned into a detective
必须跨越两大洲 来解决这25年的谜团 who must travel across two continents to solve this 25-year mystery.
很久以前 我和乔治一起进行公路旅行 Long ago, I went on the road with Georges.
现在我再次上路 没有他同行 Now I was on the road again without him,
但并非如此 but not really.
就很像乔治的风格 他希望我这样去追逐他 It was so like Georges that he would want me to chase him down this way.
（新奥尔良）
-嗨 -你好吗？ - Hey. How are you? - Hi.
-好久没见了 -真的很久了 - Oh, it's been a long time. - It's been a long time.
但你都没有变 But you haven't changed.
（遗孀）
善治 我今天一直很担心 很高兴见到你 Oh, Sandi, I have been dreading?today. I'm glad to see you.
-是的 -我想帮帮你 - Yeah. - And I want to help you out.
到底发生了什么 我不知道 我毫无概念 Whatever happened, I have no clue. I have no clue.
乔治的遗孀和他生活了25年 The widow remains so horrified
依然恐惧万分 她想保持匿名 by her 25 years with Georges that she didn't want to be named.
我甚至不知道他是怎么死的 I don't even know how he died.
他有一个大概21岁的女朋友 He had a girlfriend who was, like, 21.
她不仅很年轻 而且来自比利时 Um, not only was she young, but she was from Belgium...
还是一个化学家 and a chemist.
他上床睡觉 And he went to go to bed.
他的动脉堵塞 昏迷过去了 His arteries closed up and he passed out...
然后就死了 and died.
-他就这样死了 对 -因为搞笑的是 - He died like that, yeah. - 'Cause the funny thing...
-他太年轻了 -是的 - He was too young, wasn't he? - Yeah.
他其实比我们知道的要大四岁 He was actually four years older than what we thought.
你什么时候发现他比他大四岁的？ When did you find out he was four years older?
我们离婚的时候 When we got divorced.
他一直告诉我 他的护照 He always told me that his passport had the wrong date
吧日期搞错了 and the wrong day.
所以他的生日 都不是他真实的生日 So even his birthday wasn't his birthday.
他的生日是两天前 It was two days before.
把生日推迟两天 他就属于不同的星座 But by making it two days later, he got to be a different horoscope.
他其实是个巨蟹座 He was really a Cancer.
这种戏剧性绝对是乔治卡东那的风格 The poetry of that was just pure Georges Cardona.
无论乔治告诉我什么 我都相信 Whatever Georges told me, I believed.
我很容易信任别人 容易上当受骗 随便怎么说吧 I am a completely trusting person, you know, gullible, whatever.
因此这对我来说很难承受 That's why this is all so hard for me.
每次他参与电影制作 对我来说都是一次可怕的经历 Every time he got involved with filmmaking it was a?horrible experience for me.
-这非常昂贵 -你支付一切费用 对吗？ - You know, this is expensive. - You paid for everything, right?
-我的意思是 -不 不是一切 不过很多 - I mean... - No, not everything. But a lot.
不管他在哪里 只要我们在一起 直到1998年才分开 Wherever he was, as long as we were together, which was until 1998,
他都带着这部电影 他总是确保有把它存放在有空调的环境里 he carried that film with him and he always made sure it was air-conditioned
这就像是 我的天啊 and it was like, "Oh, my God."
我觉得这好像是一个紧箍咒 It was like a cross around my neck.
我想 在新加坡的时候 他把它放在他的工作室里 I think though, in Singapore, he kept it at the studio that he had.
她和乔治离开新加坡 去了澳大利亚的珀斯 She and Georges left Singapore for Perth, Australia,
在那里 他让她倾其积蓄 给他买了一座葡萄园 where he had her sink her savings into buying him a vineyard.
他说他会将通过阅读有关这方面的书籍来学习管理 Which he said he would learn to run by reading books on the subject.
我们有一个小房间 电影胶片就放在那里 We had a little room, and it was in there.
我真的希望扔掉它们 因为它占据了整个房间 That's when I wanted to get rid of it, because it was taking up a whole room.
两年后 他们离婚了 他搬到了西雅图 When they got divorced two years after that, he moved to Seattle...
然后搬去了休斯顿 他在那里去世了 and then to Houston, where he died...
他一直随身携带着 always carrying with him
那70罐胶片 the 70 cans of film
还有装有剧本和分脚镜的若干盒子 and boxes and boxes of scripts and storyboards.
我想 谁会这样做呢？ I thought, who does that?
今天早上 我太太提醒我 我太太是在1985年认识的乔治 My wife reminded me this morning, my wife met Georges in 1985.
她认为： “我护觉得他一定加入证人保护计划” And her thought was, "I think he must be in the Witness Protection Program."
（《门徒》）
我觉得乔治以前的学生和门徒就像你和我 I think former students and prot¨¦g¨¦s of Georges, like you and me,
依然会对他着迷 首先 我们喜欢讲故事 remain obsessed with him, first of all, because we're storytellers,
他是一个精彩的故事 and he's a great story.
70年代末 我认识了了乔治卡东那 I met Georges Cardona sometime in the late '70s.
我通过当地媒体了解到 I learned through the local media
乔治斯开设了一个传奇的灯塔媒体中心 that Georges had opened the legendary Lighthouse Media Center.
我当时大概21岁 So I would have been 21.
我们一拍即合 And we instantly bonded,
非常投缘 instantly there was chemistry there.
我想 天啊 我可能死了 去了天堂 I thought, "My God, I've died and gone to heaven,"
因为他有那些 我读到过的摄像机和录音机 because here he had these cameras?and tape recorders that I'd only read about.
我想大概在梅森迪克森线以南地区的人 I mean, nobody south of the Mason-Dixon Line, probably,
都不会有专业的《超级8》设备 had professional Super 8 equipment.
乔治很有魅力 And Georges had that kind of charisma.
我是说 他会通过离奇的方式让你的生命冒险旅行 I mean, he had this uncanny way of making adventure happen in your life,
或者至少让你渴望冒险 or at least the anticipation of adventure.
我要求乔治的遗孀 I asked the widow...
带我在新奥尔良进行一次乔治卡东那之旅 for a Georges Cardona tour of New Orleans.
哦 这就是乔治生前住的地方 他住在左边 Oh, this is where Georges lived, he lived on the left,
在那个小车库的公寓里 in that little garage apartment.
看到了吗？ You see it?
刚结婚的时候 我们都在同一家公司工作 When we first got married, we both worked for the same company.
我负责画陵墓的效果图 I did renderings of mausoleums.
我糟糕透了 I was a horrible renderer of mausoleums.
在这是我们开店的地方 它被称为大学校区 And the place where we had our shop, it was called the University Section.
店叫什么名字 What was the name of the shop?
灯塔媒体中心 Lighthouse Media Center.
而且 And, um...
现在再找那不勒斯大街 now I'm looking for Maple Street.
我觉得就是那栋灰色房子的所在地 I think it was where this gray house is.
也许是这个黄色的房子的所在地 现在看起来完全不一样了 Maybe it was where this yellow?house is. It just looks totally different now.
就在附近 我简直不敢相信 我不记得它在哪里了 It was somewhere around here, I can't believe I can't remember where it was.
怎么会消失呢？ 就在这里 How could it have disappeared? Right here...
我们花了几个小时寻找那个 We spent hours looking for the film center
乔治用她的钱建立起来的电影中心 that Georges had set up with her money.
我们损失了3万6千美元 不过 We lost $36,000, but...
我肯定完全 我可能被洗脑了 谁知道呢？ I must have been totally... Maybe I was brainwashed. Who knows?
（女性知己）
乔治写信给我 Georges wrote to me.
我们那时在英国的剑桥 他说 We were staying in Cambridge, England at that point and said,
我会派一个人去你那里 她是个天才 "I'm going to send somebody to you. She's a genius.
她几乎是自学成才 She's mostly self-taught.
她需要你” She needs you."
他认为她可能会鼓励我写剧本 He thought she might encourage me to write a screenplay,
就像他曾经说服她为他写剧本一样 just as he had once talked her into writing a screenplay for him.
就在认识他之前 我已经开始写我的第一部小说 Just before I met him I had started writing my first novel,
他问我是否愿意 and he asked me if I would collaborate
跟他合作 做一个电影项目 on a movie project with him.
他希望在新奥尔良拍一部黑色的电影场景 He wanted to make a noir set in New Orleans,
他称之为《黑色诱饵》 and he was calling it Night Decoy.
（《黑色诱饵》编剧：乔治卡东那和格蕾丝戴恩马祖尔）
他建议我去新奥尔良 What he proposed was for me to come to New Orleans...
而且 他会和我谈话 我会记录下来 and he would talk to me. I would record it,
然后我会回到家里 根据这个记录写一部剧本 and then I would go home and make a film script out of it.
有一男二女 There was a man and two women, uh,
一个坚强冷漠的女人 名叫奥德丽 a tough, hard-boiled woman named?Audrey...
还有一个可爱的亚洲人 名叫谢莉 and a sweet Asian named Chelly.
这个男人对奥德丽如痴如醉 And this man obsesses about Audrey
而且 and is...
在她的不知情的情况下在她的公寓里对她进行拍摄 videotaping her without her knowing in her apartment.
我总觉得乔治喜欢偷窥 There was a constant feeling of Peeping Tom -ism to Georges.
乔治从来没主动勾引过我 He never came on to me, personally.
我想从另一方面来说 乔治很擅长和女人打交道 I think Georges was good with women in another way.
我想他可以从她们身上 得到他想要的东西 I think he could get from them what he wanted,
他想要的并不总是性爱 and what he wanted wasn't always sex.
他让我为了他的梦而努力 He got me to work on his dreams
大概持续了4到5年的时间 for probably four or five years
而不是写我的东西 instead of writing my own stuff.
我一直迷惑不解 It's always been a mystery.
天啊 怎么 Good Lord. How...
我怎么变成了实习生？ Uh, how did I become an intern?
他通过这种神奇的方式来帮助你 He had this really uncanny way of helping you
感觉你可以实现你的梦想计划 feel like you could achieve your dream project,
但是当你更接近实现你的梦想计划的时候 but then when you got closer to achieving your dream project,
他有必要破坏它 he felt the need to sabotage it.
所以我写了一部 《最后一次睡衣派对》的虐杀片 So I wrote this slasher film called The Last Slumber Party.
这本该是灯塔媒体中心小组 And it was meant to be kind of the culmination,
研究生院的一个高潮 the graduate school of the Lighthouse Media Center group.
乔治是摄影指导 而且是 Georges was the director of photography, but also...
大师 the guru.
多年之后 我有了一些可以任意支配的收入 So years later, I had some discretionary income
我可以投入到我的电影制作中去 that I could put back into my filmmaking.
我从孟菲斯的一家电影实验室 购买了胶片 So I ordered all the film negative from Motion Picture Labs in Memphis,
乔治曾经把影片送到这里 which is where Georges had sent the film,
乔治和这些人保持了很多年的关系 and Georges had an ongoing relationship for years with these people.
除了一些胶片丢失外 Except that some of the negative was missing.
我感觉是乔治搞的鬼 I have a feeling that Georges did something with it.
我无法证明 但确实和他做过的 I can't prove it, but it certainly would not be inconsistent
其他事情不谋而合 with other things that he had done.
我知道 对别人的不幸感到快乐 I know it's terrible to feel a twinge of joy
是一件可怕的事 at someone else's misfortune,
但听了这番话 我感到自己并非形单影只 but hearing this made me feel less alone.
我和乔治的遗孀 继续寻找她和乔治生活中的残留物 The widow and I continue to search for remnants of her life with Georges.
开车真是个噩梦 It's a nightmare driving.
已经来过这里 但我找不到了 Been this way already and I can't find it.
你们可能没有意识到这让我有多开心 You all might not realize how happy
我不记得它在那里了 this makes me that I can't even remember where it was.
我本希望和她驾车同行可以让我更接近他 I hoped that by driving around with her I'd get closer to him.
但她走进的都是死胡同 But all she had were dead ends.
他有这样一种想打造神话的变态需要 He had this perverse need to create a mythology.
揣测乔治为什么要四处声称 To speculate as to why Georges would go around
他是史蒂文索德伯格 claiming that he was the inspiration
电影《性，谎言和录像带》中主角的灵感来源 for the protagonist in?Steven Soderbergh's Sex, Lies, and Videotape...
我和挚友的好友拉里布拉克 I worked on the crew of Sex, Lies, and Videotape,
一起在《性，谎言和录像带》的剧组工作过 with my?dear, beloved best friend Larry Blake,
他也是乔治卡东那初始团队中的一员 also part of the original Georges Cardona mafia.
乔治受到嫉妒 And Georges felt jealous,
受到威胁 被人孤立觉得自己理应获得一切 threatened, left out, entitled,
他手下两个 that two of his prot¨¦g¨¦s
参与制作这部电影的门徒 had this association with this film
成为轰动一时的事件 that had become a cause c¨¦l¨¨bre.
这部影片获得金棕榈奖 我们都参与其中 We all worked on this film that won the Palme d'Or.
这完全符合乔治斯的个性和性格 And it's entirely in keeping with Georges's personality and character,
据我所知 乔治会编造这样一个故事 完全符合个性和特点 as I understand it, that he would concoct such a story.
多年来 我们一直试图跟他取得联系 When we were trying to get hold of him over the years,
但无迹可寻 like, there would be no trace.
只有这个失踪人员 The only thing that's on there is this missing persons...
对我来说 看到他抽烟 That was, to me, the most bizarre thing,
是最诡异的事 以为我从没见到过他抽烟 to see him smoking, 'cause I never saw him smoke.
而且他身上从来没闻到过烟味 And he never smelled like smoke.
-是的 -太奇怪了 他居然抽烟 - Yeah. - That's so weird, he smoked.
我觉得这点很搞笑 看到他抽烟的样子 感到震惊 I think it's funny that she was struck by the sight of him smoking,
有人上网 为他开设了一个寻人启事的页面 and not by the fact that someone went online
他却视而不见 and put up a Missing Persons page for him.
什么是真 什么是假 我毫无头绪 You know, what was real and what wasn't, I have no clue.
-他说他妈妈是法国人-是吗？ - He did say his mother was French. - Was she?
-我不知道 -但你见过她 她是法国人吗？ - I don't know. - But you met her, was she French?
我无法跟她沟通 她只会说西班牙语 Well, I couldn't speak to her, she only spoke Spanish.
他从来没告诉过我他是法国人 如果说过 我会记得的 He never told me he was French. I would have remembered that.
他告诉我他出生在一艘船上 I mean, he told me that he was born on a ship
那艘船离开了德国 前往哥伦比亚 that had departed Germany en route for Colombia,
离开德国是因为他的父亲是德国人 departing Germany because his father was German.
长久以来 我一直对此深信不疑 And I just accepted that as gospel for the longest time
直到有一天 我和他的侄女 卡塔利娜谈话 until one day, I was having a conversation with his niece Catalina,
她开始大笑起来 and she started laughing.
我说 “怎么了？有什么好笑的？” I said, "Why? What's so funny?"
她说 “他也跟你说过这个故事吗？” She says, "He told you that story too?"
他是在哥伦比亚山区的一个小山村里出生的 He was born in a little mountain village in the hills of Colombia.
他总是对自己的阶级成分 There was always a sense that he was not just self-conscious
有很强的自我意识 about perceptions of his class,
对他的种族也是如此 but also his ethnicity.
他总是对自己的种族背景含糊其辞 He was always very vague about his ethnicity.
我最后一次跟乔治谈话 The last time I actually?spoke with Georges...
是在90年代早期 was sometime in the early '90s
他已经搬到新加坡了 我还在新奥尔良 and he had already moved to Singapore and I was still here in New Orleans.
就像往常一样 And as was invariably the case,
乔治开始谈论他编造的梦想项目 Georges began talking?about a dream project that he was concocting.
他想让我参与其中 And he wanted me to be part of it,
就是在新加坡拍这部电影 and it was making this movie in Singapore.
（他声称他是《现代启示录》的制片经理）
“来新加坡吧 你会是我的得力助手” "Come to Singapore, you'll be my right-hand man.
我们将在新加坡拍这部电影” We'll do this feature film in Singapore."
（制片经理 斯蒂文泰勒）
门徒的成功 The pattern that emerges is that Georges
让乔治感到威胁 would feel threatened by his prot¨¦g¨¦s being successful.
这种模式就开始浮现 他对付这种威胁的方式就是采取行动 And the way that he dealt with that threat was to take action
把这些人梦寐以求的实体材料带走 逃之夭夭 by absconding with physical manifestations of these people's dreams.
在你的案例中是电影 在我的案例中是拍摄器材 You know, in your case it was film, in my case it was film and equipment.
其他的人的案例中 也有电影 配乐或者类似的东西 Other people, it was also film, soundtracks, whatever.
我和史蒂文和我紧密相连 Steve and I are now forever bound,
不是共同受害者 而是作为侦探搭档 not as fellow victims, but as fellow detectives...
因此也是朋友 and therefore, friends.
（乔治卡东那 格林利夫街 33号 新加坡27）
我有乔治的最后一条线索 I had one last shred of Georges:
来自乔治的母亲寄来的一封旧信 回复地址是位于新奥尔良之外的 an old letter from Georges's mother with a return address in Arabi,
阿拉比 outside New Orleans.
很漂亮 It's beautiful.
乔治的遗孀企图劝说我们不要去那里 The widow tried to talk us out of going there.
我可以告诉你 阿拉比不是个好地方 I can tell you Arabi is not pretty.
好吧 Okay.
阿拉比很糟糕 Arabi is horrible.
所以 当然了 我一定要去那里 So, of course, I had to go there.
现在没有下雨 所以还好 It's not raining now so it's good.
你需要这个地图册吗？ Do you need this, the matte box?
这让我想到了《春光乍现》中的一个场景 And this made me think of that scene in Blow Up,
大卫海明斯回到犯罪现场后 when David Hemmings returns to the scene of the crime...
结果却一无所获 only to find nothing.
把乔治卡东那 一层层地剥皮后 After unpeeling Georges Cardona layer by layer,
我意识到 除了电影什么都没有 I realize there's nothing there but movies.
他想要模仿一些角色 There were characters he wanted to emulate.
他想假装成一些角色 And there were characters he pretended to be.
单和他本身最接近的诺斯费拉图 But the one who was closest to who he really was...
这也是他是真是本色 was Nosferatu.
（《诺斯费拉图》：夜晚的幽灵 1979年）
企图通过吸食年轻人的梦想 Trying to become immortal...
来获得永生 by feeding on young people's dreams.
对于《逃避者》乔治卡东那 Georges Cardona had his own very bizarre love, right? For Shirkers.
有一种诡异的热爱 I thought that when he absconded
我觉得他带着所有的胶片 with all of the reels
潜逃之后 他们会散落在外 that it would just be strewn outside,
在潮湿的环境里逐渐腐烂 and the humidity would basically eat up the film,
就这样了 and that would be it.
不过他喜欢这些胶片 But he loved those reels.
我们都以不同的方式爱上了这部电影 We all fell in love with the film in different ways,
但他的回答是 我不知道 天啊 and his was like, I don't know, man,
就像恋尸癖一样 it was like necrophiliac.
他可能喜欢我们的胶片 He might have loved our reels,
但是他把所有的录音带都扔了 but he threw all the sound recordings away.
《逃避者》还给我们的时候是一部默片 Shirkers was returned to us a mute.
（郑叶杰 影评人）
20多年之后 I'm seeing everything, first time.
我第一次看过全片 More than 20 years later.
你在那里 整部影片种都有 There you are. God, look at you.
你知道 你们都很可爱吗？ You know, you guys were adorable.
好吧 我真的 Okay, I really..
当我看到影片的时候 When I saw the footage,
（谢福龙 影评人）
我只是想 天哪 这部影片本来应该完成的 I just thought that, "Gee whiz, this film should've been finished."
这会成为一种号召力 告诉大家凡是都可以尝试 It would have been a rallying call that it's okay to try anything.
在关于新加坡电影史的书籍中 You know, Shirkers is like the ghost
《逃避者》就像是字里行间的一个幽灵 in between the lines of books written on Singapore film history,
对我来说《逃避者》非常明显的缺陷 and for me, Shirkers has this very palpable absence.
我听到这个声音说：“不行” And I have this voice going, "No,?no, no,
《逃避者》需要有一席之地 Shirkers needs to be there."
多年来 我觉得自己像个疯子 For years, I felt like a crazy person
谈论这部不存在的电影 talking about this film that didn't exist.
但我证明了自己的清白 But I was vindicated.
我记得但是每个人都很出色 Everyone I remembered being fantastic was fantastic.
而我要多糟糕 就有多糟糕 And I was as rotten as I thought I was.
在这个时间里有很多惊喜 There were so many surprises in this time capsule.
这个时代的流行时装 The fashion choices of the era.
口香糖被禁止后 锦佳在肆无忌惮的嚼口香糖 Jasmine defiantly chewing gum after gum was officially banned.
还有我早已遗忘的 And then, there was the landscape of a Singapore
新加坡景观 I had let myself forget.
（细致入微的创新营造细致入微的体验）
（新马铁路 1932-2011）
在拍摄《逃避者》之前 锦佳没有参加 Jasmine didn't come along on that road trip
我和乔治进行那次公路旅行 that Georges and I took before Shirkers...
不过多年后 我们进行了另一次公路旅行 but years later, we took another one.
我把她带回纽约 I was taking her back to New York.
货许不再是她曾经熟悉的那个纽约 Maybe not the same New York she once knew.
不过她也不同往昔 But she wasn't the same person anymore either.
他们为什么让它看起来好像有更多的东西 Why do they make it look like it's cardboard?
你们美国人 太棒了 You Americans, so wonderful.
我要在巴黎 I was getting married in Paris,
巴黎 和拉斯维加斯结婚 Paris, Las Vegas.
嘿 开始了 他们来了 Hey, here we go. There they are.
噢耶 Oh, yeah.
灯没开 The light's not on.
-嘿？-灯还没亮 - Hey? - The light's not on.
看看这个 我走出了自己的婚礼…… Look at this. I step out of my own wedding...
这个录像 Is the video...?
马上开始对锦佳大吼 ...and instantly begin yelling at Jasmine.
（爵士女神）
你又不是骆驼 You are not a camel.
又不重 所有东西都 我拿着它 It's not heavy.?I'm holding it.
她说的对 She was right.
我就是个混蛋 I was an asshole.
真的很好 It's so good!
锦佳刚创作了 Jasmine had just made what is still
新加坡历史上最具冒险性的电影 the most adventurous movie ever created in Singapore.
（《吃风》1999年）
我们三个人中 锦佳是唯一还住在新加坡的 Of the three of us, Jasmine is the only one who still lives in Singapore.
到目前为止 她是我们三人中最棒的 And she's the noblest of us by far.
这是为了提高对编剧的关注 And this is to raise awareness for the screenwriters, yeah!
-像这样？-像这样 - Like that? - Like that.
剧作家们团结起来 Say, "Writers unite!"
-编剧团结起来 -耶 - Writers unite! - Yeah!
只要她看到不公 就会抗争 She fights Injustice wherever she sees it.
只要我们身处同一个城市的 就会一起吃午饭 We still grab lunch whenever we're in the same city,
我们仍然会突袭 足不出户的朋友叶杰 and we still ambush our friend Yek Keak who never leaves his home.
叶 嘿 Yek Keak!
是你们 进来吧 You guys, come on in.
我们可能会停拍 Uh, and then we'll probably cut.
因为我们得清理工作室 并重新限制 Because we have to clear the studio room and reset our blocking.
你准备好了 我们就开拍 Whenever you're ready. Rolling?
但不管《逃避者》会带来什么 即使过了这么多年之后 But whenever Shirkers comes up, even after all these years,
我们还是坠入了同一层地狱 we descend into the same circle of hell.
这是典型的作风 你会把任何人都置于放大镜下 This is so typically you that you're gonna put everybody under the magnifying glass
把每个人都放进一个小小的玻璃容器里 除了你自己 and put everyone in a little glass tank terrarium except yourself.
这就是你的一贯作风 你总会 That's how you always do these things, you always...
-比如什么？什么时候？ -一直如此 - Like what? Like when? - All the time.
因为就好像是你再找乐子 Because this is like?for your amusement.
我告诉你多少次了 这极度讨厌 How many times can I keep telling you that it was extremely annoying
极度让人失望和让人疲惫不堪 and it was extremely disappointing and it was extremely draining
是人与人之间的关系 and that it was the relationships that drained
而不是电影本身让我们精疲力尽 and not the production itself that exhausted us?
谢谢 Thank you.
这场长达23年的战斗…… This 23-year battle...
对我来说 是双刃剑 um, is a double-edged sword for me,
因为 because...
你 锦佳和我感情深厚 uh, you and Jasmine and I are bonded in a way
我跟其他人 任何人都没这种感情 that I don't share a bond with anyone else.
我不必每天和你说话 I don't have to talk to you every day.
我需要定期和你交谈 I don't have to talk to you, you know, on a regular basis,
但有一种一拍即合的视觉和情感共鸣 but there is that instant sort of very visceral and emotional connection.
你到了之后 送给我这个笔记本 You gave me this notebook when you arrived.
我也有23年没见过它了 So I have I have not seen this for 23 years.
-这是你的笔记本 -这是我的笔记本 - This is your notebook. - This is my notebook.
我在研究和拆分剧本 So I'm analyzing and breaking down the script
寻找象征手法 隐喻和暗示 for, like, symbolism and metaphor and allusions.
这个笔记本包含了我职业的核心内容 This notebook contains the kernel for my profession,
那时的我对此浑然不觉 unbeknownst to me.
第七个场景 内景 在他家 下午 "Scene seven, interior, S's house, afternoon."
我写道“玩具是一个人个性的实体表现” "The toys would be physical manifestations of her personality.
UH 必须全部用大写 They must reflect, HER"... in all caps.
“她通过自己的梦境来追求永生吗” "Is she seeking immortality through her dreams?"
瞧 即使在当时 我都在挖掘潜台词 See, even then, I was digging, right, for subtext.
今年秋天 我会担任系主任 任期三年 I'm gonna be chair of the department actually in the fall for three years.
你？你要当系主任了？哇 You? You're gonna be chair of the department? Wow.
你应该说 你可以分享这部电影 You should've said... So you're the chair of Film?
-是的 -瓦萨学院？ - Yeah. - Vassar?
我好像是资历第二老的人 不过总之... It's like I'm the next senior person, but anyway...
对 接下来怎么办 So, yeah. So what's next?
通过制作这部电影 我认识到 Making this film, I've come to realize
乔治的鬼魂永远都会对我纠缠不清 that Georges's ghost will never truly leave me.
我懂得了两件事 And I've learned to think:
“没关系” "That's okay."
这条路会通向另一方 和秘密出版物 Let's wait for the other side. And see what it brings.
20多年来 For more than 20 years,
本一直谈论他被乔治偷走的录音带 Ben talked about the soundtrack that Georges stole from him.
有一天 我终于说 Finally, one day I said,
你为什么不弹给我听能 why don't you just play it for me?
你因为人生中的那个阶段 渴望观看这部电影 You have this affection?towards the film because of the time in your life.
我们为之欢笑 为之痛苦 You know, we laughed about it, we cried about it,
怨声载道 we bitched about it.
很奇怪 因为这部电影并不存在 It's strange because it doesn't exist as a film,
不过它的确存在 and yet it does.
是的 对我来说 它存在于我的心中和脑海中 Right? It exists here for me and exists here.
所以你现在要做的 不是要让《逃避者》重见天日 And so what you're doing is not bringing Shirkers back to life
而是让它死后有余生 but giving it an afterlife...
回到我们手中 and back to us.
这不仅是一个实体的时间舱 It's more than a physical time capsule.
也不仅是一道风景 和消失的建筑物 It's not just scenery and disappearing buildings,
还有那些地方的人 but it's also people in those places.
我知道我再也不能让所有的朋友 在同一时间 I know I'll never get all of my friends in the same place
聚集在同一个地点 at the same time ever again.
我们再来弹F调 Let's do the F again.
但他们都在这里 But here they all are...
和我在一起 with me.
哦 Oh.
“外景 高速公路 下午” "Exterior, highway, afternoon.
风声 The sound of wind."
嘿 你看 Hey, look.
在美好的午后 In all golden afternoons
有权利的人 there are movers,
能呼风唤雨的人 there are shakers,
然后 and then,
还有逃避者 there are shirkers.
你曾经停止过在照片中生活吗？ Have you ever stopped living In a photograph?
你会停止生活在照片里吗？ Will you ever stop living In a photograph?
你是一个自拍女王 You're a selfie queen
但这并不意味着什么 ut that don't mean anything at all
你有足够的兴趣让你度过一天吗？ Did you get enough likes To get you through your day?
在你走之前 你还得发更多的帖子吗？ Do you have to post more Till you get your way?
你整个一生都这样吗？ Have you been like this Your entire life?
我想今天我要把手机留在家里 I think I'm gonna leave my cell phone At home today
我希望你在我不在的时候打电话 And I hope you call While I'm away
当我回到家的时候 我就会让它成为 When I get home and see I'll just let it be
我们再来弹F调 Let's do the F again.